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  1. 14 points
    Emphatically not; it's the surest way of irritating car drivers and getting an aggressive response. Motorcyclists get a bad enough rap as it is. I filter for a few miles every day on my way to work, and I aim to be as discreet and unnoticeable as possible. Of course, it requires a high degree of vigilance to spot the subtle early signs of an impulsive lane-swap, but it works for me. And if a car hasn't noticed me and the gap is too narrow, well, I just wait.
  2. 11 points
    Magazines are an endangered species. And when they’re full of crap like that who can claim to be surprised?
  3. 9 points
    Ive seen it done, its embaressing and pisses car drivers off. It comes across as agressive and cagers hate us a bit more Filter carefully, have a "plan", be courteous and hang back if you need to. My two penneth over.
  4. 8 points
    When I test rode the NC DCT I had not ridden a motorcycle for seven years. I have given it up due to not enjoying the pain in my left hand. Clutch work was painful and on a motorbike you do a lot of clutch work. I was looking at the CBF600 as it had a low seat height but was introduced to the DCT principal. The DCT changed everything for me. It gave me the ability to get back on a bike and enjoy riding. On the test ride it took about 300 yards up the road for me to realise this bit of gadgetry would resolve the issues I had in the past. Here's the but. But it took 3 months of riding to get to understand the DCT and how to use all the buttons and where to apply the knowledge. Slow riding can be achieved successfully but (another one) its not the same as using a clutch Honda in their marketing wisdom offer all DCT models without DCT. That says they understand its a personal choice of the individual to go for manual clutch or auto clutch. I have made a choice based on a set of circumstances that are unique to me. As somebody who is not swayed by advertising and capable of making decisions the choice of the DCT was all mine, but (yet another one) that's not the modern way. Many people are swayed by advertising in what ever form it takes. It could be factual or just opinion. It seems nowadays that opinion gets more air time and pages in papers or magazines and this generation are lapping it up and confusing it with knowledge, wisdom and factual information. Discernment is needed. Something not really spoken about in these modern times. Take what is in front of you and think over it. Use your own knowledge and a little bit of wisdom and a bucket load of experience and see what comes out at the end. It takes time to become wise and it takes time to get experience and then sometimes wisdom will arrive. It may be one day that this magazine writer may come back to the DCT and change his mind or have another opinion due to changes in his life and circumstances. Don't shut the door on anything, You may need it further along on your journey Hindsight is a great thing but you cant give it to the young. We are all different and all unique. I would not have it any other way. Although our differences cause us much difficulty they do make us who we are. Love the article or hate the article is has caused us to talk and discuss. By the way, I love my DCT. Managed a short ride out today
  5. 8 points
    Your fingers on the heated grip are in direct contact so you feel it. On the clutch lever air is between glove and grip so colder. I would imagine it makes whole tenths of a degree of difference. The magazine sent Jeremy Clarkson to test a Ford Fiesta. The result is sulking because he thinks his job is using Ferraris to break traffic laws (plus laughing at the class clown and duffing up minions). People buy a lot more Fiestas because for most uses they are the better car. I'd be sending this clown on a project where his only means of transport was a Ducati, he had to ride Guildford to Trafalgar Square for 8.45 am every day in January and February and he was personally responsible for all the running costs, including if it gets stolen. Tree bark with the opinions of one clown on them is 19th Century technology. Come on here and get dozens of real world, long term experiences. Andy
  6. 8 points
    Battery died on 21st December and Mr RAC said I needed a new one. Went straight onto this forum and found a link to a battery at Eurocarparts which with Xmas discount came in at £40. It being Christmas they said expect delivery by 29th December. Fair enough. Called on the 28th - oh sorry sir - looks like your order has been cancelled by the computer. WTF! We'll start a new order for you. When might I expect delivery? 2nd Jan sir. Call 2nd Jan - oh sorry sir - the stock coming from Glasgow seems to have disappeared off the computer. Maybe the end of the week? But I'm back at work. I'll have to go on the Tube :-(((( I cancelled the order - well non order to be honest as nothing had happened except me giving them some of my money. To be fair they did refund me yesterday. Call Wemoto. 2nd December. Hi Sir. Motobatt battery please. Sorry Sir, stock arriving tomorrow. As soon as we get it in we will dispatch it - be with you Thursday. Yes please says I. I sit here now at nearly 5pm, battery fitted after delivery at about 1pm - bike started first press of the button. Happy. I will never go anywhere else. A great company that we should all support.
  7. 8 points
    I get Ride, a present from a well meaning family member. It's pretty poor, I read the article a few days ago. I thought the rider was blaming the bike because it prevented him riding like a cock. "I just don't get it" he said. No, and I don't think he will so long as his little tushie points downwards.
  8. 7 points
    My main present from Sue was a voucher for a Neotech 2 . They are not available until the end ofJanuary so it is a combined Christmas and birthday (February) present. I’m looking forward to choosing the colour
  9. 7 points
    No it's me being really soft... I mean contact with the freezing cold levers is hardly necessary... a little bit of braking and that's it. No airflow as you say, and very little holding of those cold levers. I know... I know... I'm in the Thames one day without complaint, the next I'm precious about cold levers within my heated gripped muffed handle bar set up. I'll never understand me either!
  10. 7 points
    No one will ever take the same care you do. No one will be as available as you are. Dealer techs are human and while they should know the difference between DCT and manual some will assume they are the same. I train truck technicians and you get everything from the ones wasted by not working for NASA and the ones who shouldn't be trusted to take Lego apart. Some have brains, some make up for not being brain surgeons by reading the book, some don't give a ****. The better ones get nothing extra for doing a good job, in fact they usually get more hassle by having the worst jobs dumped on them or being made responsible for idiots. I'd define yourself a routine (same spot on your drive, after a 10 minute plus ride, after you've taken your lid off and said hello to the dog etc.) and come back to this in 500 miles. Andy
  11. 6 points
    Going to be honest I don't think they would notice the tiny growl from my NC if I did grab the throttle. I do my best not to upset car drivers as I use mostly the same route each day - there is only one MR2 driver who hates me with a vengeance and I give her the widest of wide berths! Like Steve, if I can get through safely I will, if I feel I can't I will hang back until I can (or someone louder) goes through. If you blip the throttle they are more likely to move further into your path in annoyance. I have seen one or two noisy bikes attempt it and then get sandwiched. I think DCT is a fantastic choice for those that have issues with clutch/gear due to injury/health. It keeps them riding!!! They can ride a bike that looks like a bike rather then have to use a scooter if that isn't their style Also I have heard the merits of sitting in traffic means you don't have to keep your hand on the clutch....
  12. 6 points
    Summary, and update: Honda UK offered me a year's additional warranty. I said that I was concerned about the resale value of the scoot and any future issues that might appear at some time from running the engine for 1800 miles with no head gasket. They refused to replace the engine and said it would be fine now. I pointed out that an extra year's warranty would mean me being committed to more expensive servicing during that period. Honda UK acknowledged this and said that they'd give me one free service. The local dealer didn't think this was sufficient and thought that Honda should give me a service package for extra peace of mind. Honda refused. They did send me a nice hamper at Christmas by way of apology.
  13. 6 points
    Just caught up with this, late I know. OK, so since it was I who mentioned a needle in an orifice I take this personally. I'm usually very tolerant of valid criticism and it takes a lot to rile me, but for someone to come on this venerable forum, regardless of expertise, and start their first post being all uppity is a bit rich. As a sage once said "In the company of strangers it's bad manners to be right too soon". If KSS was a little more civil he/she may have noticed and acknowledged that I not only said that ".. if for example it was a needle in an orifice ....." in an attempt to plant a picture of a generic system which reaches the end of it's active adjustment range, but at the end of the paragraph I clearly stated "I don't know how it works". In no way did I suggest that's how a Nitron works nor did I suggest anything as to how anyone should alter the device. I for one am extremely pleased that we will see no further activity from KSS. I'm almost tempted to throw my Nitron shock in the bin in a fit of pique, but the fact that it is an excellent product and they are expensive prevents me from such childish reaction. ............... and breathe.
  14. 6 points
    It’s important to get an assistant to hold the visor flat on a towel (or something)on a table. You think you’re going to break it, but you won’t. Trying to fit the pin lock to a curved visor is hardly ever truly successful (in my experience). My son had to show me how to do it right!
  15. 6 points
    ooer I'm still on PR3's on most of my modern bikes, how will I stay upright or be able to stop in the rain Joking aside, although new tyre tech can often be better, the improvements are usually evolutionary and only really noticeable under test conditions. Don't let it fool you too much that the difference between tyres is the reason for an off or an accident, much, much, much more likely to be other factors including the riders ability to use anything like max performance from their tyres, brakes and reactions.......... and please don't give me all that 'if you only value your life as much as the cost of a the latest tyre' cobblers, as I've posted previously, if you're that worried about your safety then you'er better off driving a car or walking or just staying in bed
  16. 5 points
    Bugger. Today I happened to be passing my local Beemer dealer so I went in for an eyeball of their goods. I made the mistake of sitting on a GS 1200. Ooh, it felt comfy and not too heavy. I could flat foot it with the seat in standard position. New price is eyewatering though. I mumbled that i might be back and left before I signed anything.
  17. 5 points
    I promised I'd do this and take some photos. i needed an accessory loom for my CRF250 Rally, to connect my satnav and later heated grips, heated jacket etc. On my NC I used a Nippy Normans Fuzeblock and a good bit of kit it was, but expensive. As I'm a poor pensioner and former engineer, I thought I ought to be able to make my own switched accessory loom. This is how I did it; Equipment 1. hella 4 pin relay 2. 3 off 5mm ring connectors & insulator sleeves 3. 5 off flag connectors & insulator sleeves 4. 1 four fuse fuse box 5. 1 splashproof blade fuse holder and lead. (20A) for battery to relay connection 6. Short length 20A cable for earth to relay connection 7. Length of 15A cable for +ive switched connection to relay 8. Short length of 20A cable for switched positive from relay to fuse box. 9. Double sided adhesive tape. Tools Wire cutters Wire strippers Crimping tool Electrical tape Tips Use proper crimp connectors and would not personally recommend those with the blue or red plastic sleeve already fitted. I buy mine from Vehicle wiring products. You will need a good crimping tool, not cheap, but it will pay for itself many times over. I've had mine for over 25 years. the relay and the fuse block are available from a number of sources. I chose the fuse block I used because it has one positive connection in and four out, which simplifies the connections for me. And it fitted in the space. the wiring diagram for the relay can be found at this link; http://sasiyo.com/how-to-wire-up-a-4-pin-relay the CRF doesn't have much room, so the relay is remote rom the fuse box like this; (Green/Yellow - earth) (Pink/Black- switching live) (Green/White - power from battery) (Green/Red - switched live to fuse box) The switching (Pink/Black) is connected to the rear light circuit (switched on/off with the ignition) as it has a conventional bulb and was easy to connect to. The switched live (Green/Red) connects to the fuse box like this; Accessories, up to 4, can be connected to the spades once fused up. Without a fuse they are not live. The final set up looks like this with plenty of clearance under the seat; The whole fit, if I'd had to buy everything (I had the wire, the connectors and the relay) would have cost under £15.00. On the NC I would have mounted the relay right next to the fuses. Hope it helps someone.
  18. 5 points
    Well just an update now the bike is working again on the issue. I had thought it was the fuel pump before I went off to To the sun for a week- an expensive fix. Got it back early this morning and put the bench power supply on the fuel pump and it ran ok bit more investigation an I could see voltage sometimes at the pump but very high resistance (so low amp pull) had a think and did what I should have done first thing before taking all the plastics off and check the relay, and found it bad - simply fix, and all working :-)
  19. 5 points
    Not opinions, for you the DCT was a waste of money, fact. For me the DCT is a long awaited innovation, fact. And that is why any half decent journalist should, for the sake of journalistic integrity, at least try and see it from another point of view. At the very least they should include either comments or the views from happy DCT owners in the interest of writing a balanced article. I wonder how many potential DCT buyers will be put off by that article and thus miss out on something they might otherwise have enjoyed? I would have ended that article with something along the lines of; Personally I didn't like or get on with the DCT, however, Honda do offer both manual and DCT options. I would recommend anyone considering an Africa Twin to test ride both options before buying, the DCT may or may not be what you are looking for. Just because I don't get doesn't mean that you won't. You decide.
  20. 5 points
    Ok folks...it's another MF review which I enjoy watching...but does this look like a credible alternative to a petrol motorcycle (as long as you don't plan to go touring?).....your thoughts please...
  21. 5 points
    Poppers a man biker now :0) all impatient ......
  22. 5 points
    I generally use the horn to alert the other road user of my presence or hold fire until its safe to pass.the fact that you are now freewheeling and making a racket puts you at a disadvantage , you need drive to accelerate when the chance arises. bike work best when being ridden not just sat on :0) dct or no dct . who actually cares . if you do , you need t6o get out more :0) since my granddaughter can master and repeat a few words the new term for dickhead is "unicorn" . so the unicorns generally can't hear you because they have earphones in or have the radio so loud that an emergency service vehicle can sit up their chuff and still not see or hear it. like steve said , when I've seen a bike bounce off the rev limiter it very rarely gets a favourable reaction.
  23. 5 points
    If we linked the potholes our roads are currently riddled with, to become one continuous slot. Then lined them with tin and connected it to the mains, we wouldn't need batteries. Driving would become one large Scalextic circuit. Mind you, I'd have to modify my driving. I always used to come off on the corners.
  24. 5 points
    Tex, on the face of it it looks like a good idea, and it's what BMW do on the i3 with their "range extender". Sadly, and you knew this was coming, it's inefficient, there are efficiency losses through the charging arrangements, there are efficiency losses by carrying the extra weight, and to get the charging rate required to exceed the usage rate and charge the battery en route, you'd need to have a big old motor. (Embee is better placed than me to do the sums, it's getting late😁) It would be easier and much more efficient to let the motor drive the wheels through a gearbox. Which is sort of what a hybrid car does, but they carry a big weight penalty. But electric in the city and petrol out of town would be a step in the right direction. But it's still solving the wrong problem, which is population, but that's a very controversial and difficult area. Another answer is to restrict (always controversial) personal vehicles to a max weight of one tonne, or even 800kg and power of 60bhp. The improvements in emissions and reduction and use of resources would be immense just from the weight reduction. That's why my nearly 2 tonne Volvo is soon to go and we'll stick with our 1.2 Panda. Its only status that people would loose, and we'd get over it in the end. Light weight is a simple well understood technology available now. They can still be fun to drive.
  25. 5 points
    My local Honda dealer has knocked out a couple of these - the CB500X with ‘Rally Raid’ extras. I would love to try one. Actually I would love to have the off road skills to try one off road is what I mean..
  26. 5 points
    Every time I see another post about the unsuitability of the AT for use as a mode of transport due to having tubes my thoughts desperately turn to how I can 'puncture proof' the diabolical circular contraptions Honda have fitted. I even spent two hours You tube browsing DIY tape conversions the other night. Then I remember that pretty much all my bikes had tubed tyres for the first ten+ years of my biking and I hardly recall a puncture, and just how few punctures I've actually experienced on a bike over the last ten+ years, and that I somehow managed over 5000 miles on the AT last year without a puncture (should I apply to that Guiness Book?) and then I forget all about it. I guess it will stay that way until I get stranded somewhere due to an unfixable puncture (no I don't have a centre stand or the inclination to try and wrestle a tyre off a bike by the road side so please don't even suggest it ) and then I'll slink off and get some tubeless wheels but sure as hell won't post on here telling anyone I've done so
  27. 4 points
    My 850 guzzi is 40 in may so is my birthday on guess what / the 20th so 40 years legal on the road 16th birthday and no mot to do - I could probably have the mot done on me but would probably fail
  28. 4 points
    I think its a tough gig. Even if bought by the gallon the gloop is insanely expensive. It must take 20-30 minutes per bike so with travel you might get in ten a day on a Saturday in September, but a Tuesday in June? With travel, tools, materials and time you get the £70 figure if you want to eat which makes DIY attractive. On top of that you'll have to deal with man-child complaints about chrome not looking as shiny as it did when the sun was out and the real loonies trying to get it for free (or worse) with complaints of how you contaminated the brake pads and they almost died. You'll need legal insurance. Andy
  29. 4 points
    I got one similar to this when it was on sale https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-ranger-7240-2hp-24-litre-air-compresso/ Came with a spray can set as part of the offer https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/kit-1000-5-piece-air-tool-kit/ and I bought a 20M air hose on top, IIRC £130.00 all in. It will: Spray ACF50 Inflate tyres quickly enough to pop tubeless onto the bead Spray Creosote type gunk onto fence panels (wear overalls or get the fake tan from hell!) Run the airgun I borrowed from work to undo wheel nuts Renault-Dacia gorillas had put on with one. Spray thinned down Hammerite onto my dads old trailer chassis. Blow swarf out of things I've drilled or washed in petrol, water out of nooks and crannies etc. Doing the fence it tripped out after 40 minutes continuous use. I'm sure a more professional one would run continuously, but i don't need it to. You get 10 goes out of the £80 bottle of ACF-50, so that's £8 a go. The other cleaning stuff, muck-off or foam to get clean before you put it on is going to be under a fiver, I use a jet wash (carefully). At £13 an application, you are saving £40 a go on the professionals, so the compressor is paid for at the fourth go, call it five if you take one to get the hang of it. Andy
  30. 4 points
    Buy a compressor when Aldi have them or machine mart have a sale. You'll be ahead by the third application. Andy
  31. 4 points
    You have completely missed the point. It's not about DCT, the Africa Twin or the Ducati, it's about journalism. An article that informs people, giving them enough information to be useful in making a decision if you're a potential buyer that is a pleasure to read. It might even inspire you to look a little closer, find out more and perhaps even re-evaluate your own view on the subject. It would have been equally as bad for him to announce that he'd seen the light and anyone buying a non DCT bike should be committed to an asylum. I'm sure if he had those people riding non DCT bikes would have had something to say about it and the point about journalistic integrity would be equally valid. If you just want something that tells you that a decision you have already made is the right one then there are fanboy videos on YouTube for that. That article would have failed if it had been about bath taps.
  32. 4 points
    So the dealer that took my bike off me are saying that I can have mine back for £3000. That is £700 more than what they gave me for it. But it’s going to be Mot’d serviced and have 6 months warranty. Plus I know the bike. I think I would be silly not to have it back. Might treat it to an exhaust just to make it feel different.
  33. 4 points
    Funnily enough this months Ride was the end of my subscription, they sent me a email reminding me to re-subscribe, but when I read the dross they wrote about DCT I switched to MCS&L instead. You are never too old to spit your dummy out now and again.
  34. 4 points
    Mister Paul. It looks to me like they completely fixed your bike, it'll be fine and it'll be worth the same as all the rest when you trade it. Nice gesture by the dealer, nice gesture by Honda giving you an extra years warranty and a free service. You did well. Enjoy your bike. You've been treated pretty well from what I see of it. Time to move on.
  35. 4 points
    I had an electronic Scott oiler and fling was negligible after I got the right calibration. I've never had such a clean chain and it doubled the life of my chain. I'd fit it again, except my bike has belt drive......
  36. 4 points
    Ahh, the 'rev-bomb'! A staple of youtube motovlogs - mainly by kids on 125s facing the indignity of having to slow down to legal road speeds by some idiot in a car ahead of them insisting on stopping at every red light or gIving way at roundabouts (bloody cagers!).
  37. 4 points
    It's also worth remembering that road transport accounts for only a small part of our carbon emissions. Heating and lighting, manufacturing, construction - these are bigger problems and all need tackling as well if we are going to make any worthwhile difference. Also, making a car generates a lot of CO2, so the Tesla or Bolt isn't quite as green as it might appear. After all, you have to manufacture it before you can use it. I am not opposed to electric cars or bikes, though. I would love both, although they'd have to be MUCH cheaper before I'd consider one. But to think they are going to make a significant difference to climate change is naive. In terms of return on investment (i.e. CO2 reduction per pound), we'd be better keeping our old cars and buying a load of photo-voltaics instead. The UK government publishes loads of dead useful data online. Very well worth a read, especially if you want to argue from an informed position (something I rarely bother to do ). https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/631146/UK_Energy_in_Brief_2017.pdf https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/energy-trends https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-energy-statistics-statistical-press-release-march-2017 Just examples - have a search around gov.uk.
  38. 4 points
    I used a bus once. I dropped the car off for service then caught the bus into town, only because it was chucking it down with rain. That was a ten minute ride and cost about the same, £2.70!!! I did the few errands in town and wandered back to the bus station to get home. I can walk home from town in 20mins but again the rain made that an unpleasant option. I got on the bus, another £2.70, and sat down. My first hint that I'd made a dreadful mistake came when the bus turned left out of the bus station rather than right, I decided it was probably to pull in a couple of other town stops. Things went from bad to worse when I noticed we were leaving town in totally the wrong direction for home, on foot I'd have been halfway there by now! I got up and went to check with the driver that I was on the right bus, I was reassured that I was. Unfortunately things had changed since the buses of my childhood, the ones that back and forth to a destination and back, this bus went round and round, a bit like the wheels, calling at many, many villages before going back into town on the opposite side from which it left, passing right by the end on street about ten minutes from town. I was on that bus for an hour and twenty minutes!!
  39. 4 points
    i drive a small electric car and commute every day and it’s charged up every day. Its a 16 mile round trip and the car takes 80 minutes to charge back upto full. The equivalent petrol consumption Is quoted at 211mpg The battery is coming upto 6 years old and there has been no noticeable drop in range since I bought it new Andy
  40. 4 points
    Lot of negativity here boys, this isn't going to be like 3D tv, it will catch on. I'm wirh Gonzo on the positive side.
  41. 4 points
    I think when a mainstream manufacturer joins in, it'll be on the iPrat model: buy a 3 year package at only £499 a month, limited mileage, small print about range not being guaranteed etc. When you trying to live with a 200 yard range they'll be offering you an upgrade. About as green as a coal fired polystyrene factory if they have you on a new one every 14 months. Andy
  42. 4 points
    I wish I didn't have one now, so I can go and buy one. I love a bargain.
  43. 4 points
    Trev , a touch of the flat earth syndrome creeping in methinks . Things do move on . As they say on the Simpsons " think of the children " i think they are fan dabble-doubly (ned Flanders) approach . I for one will be throwing away all my other tyres just so I can get them . as for all the punctures , well he does work in a nail factory :0)
  44. 4 points
    Some beans,not full applied beans, but some beans.
  45. 4 points
  46. 4 points
    I like the look of the Mash Dirtstar - basically a Roadstar with nobblies. It would be just the ticket in winter on our swampy, muddy Norfolk lanes. Believe it or not it is that wet at the moment that an otter crossed the road in front of me today...
  47. 4 points
    Just to elaborate a little, this is exactly why it’s alway a poor idea to increase the size of a tyre on a standard rim. Folks think “A 160 is pretty small these days, I’ll fit a 170 and put more rubber on the road and get more grip..” The exact opposite is true. The standard size rim and tyre are chosen for a reason. By fitting a wider tyre the profile (shape) is distorted and the tyre will be more ‘rounded’. Even the best riders can’t lean over far enough to ‘use’ a round tyre. Case in point, the TT organisers permit the use of 6”rear rims which spread our 190 slicks into a perfect ‘flat’ profile, but the organisers at Phillip Island will only allow 5.5” rims (they don’t allow flat slide carbs or six pot calipers either). The narrow(er) rim distorts the tyre into a ‘round’ shape and leaves even the fastest riders with ‘chicken strips’.
  48. 4 points
    Talking of "dealing with it", I once fixed a puncture with a nut, bolt and two washers. It was my Versys, which I still own. Got a nasty puncture - quite a big hole in the rear tyre in the tread. Left it at a petrol station and caught the bus home. Later that day I caught the bus back, with a bag of assorted metric fasteners in my pocket, plus a bottle of that green gunk. I selected a washer that I could just about force through the hole edgeways, then made myself a "plug" so it had the bolt head and washer on the inside of the tyre, then a washer and nut on the outside. Tricky to tighten, but managed it with a pair of pliers to grip the bolt and a ring spanner on the nut. Then I pumped the green gunk in through the valve and inflated it using the garage air line to about 40psi. It got me the several miles home, going 'tick...tick...tick...' all the way. I was surprised - fully expected it to come out, but it didn't. Obviously I didn't ride the bike to the dealer like that - the shame would have been too much. I removed the plug and just took the wheel with me in my car.
  49. 4 points
    Haven't even got through a 1/4 of a tank yet. Hoping to take 'Dyson' over to Worthing tomorrow to see family.
  50. 4 points
    Or popularly common? (Reminds me of an old girlfriend )
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