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Andy m

The personal/public vehicle debate often seens to miss changes likely in how people work. You no longer need to travel to central London every day to trade shares. Taking someone's gall stones out from your living room is either cutting edge or highly dangerous  Your shopping can be delivered. If no one goes to the office the toilets won't need cleaning. It is however highly unlikely that you will ever get a robot to paint your bathroom or make you feel better when you wake up from an anaesthetic.

 

Why and when both people and stuff needs to move will change faster than the transition from IC. This itself acts as a delay. Building a runway or railway only to find everyone emails their stuff is not a great plan.

 

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Rocker66
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36 minutes ago, Andy m said:

The personal/public vehicle debate often seens to miss changes likely in how people work. You no longer need to travel to central London every day to trade shares. Taking someone's gall stones out from your living room is either cutting edge or highly dangerous  Your shopping can be delivered. If no one goes to the office the toilets won't need cleaning. It is however highly unlikely that you will ever get a robot to paint your bathroom or make you feel better when you wake up from an anaesthetic.

 

Why and when both people and stuff needs to move will change faster than the transition from IC. This itself acts as a delay. Building a runway or railway only to find everyone emails their stuff is not a great plan.

 

Andy

Despite much being done on line these days the number of people travelling by rail has increased in recent years. 

Its not only work people want to visit friends & relatives attention all sort of events and have some sort of leisure time. There is also the need to attend such things as doctors dentist opticians and so on. Not many of them in rural areas these days.

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Andy m
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The railways gave us a great example of how not to manage change. Dr. Beeching looked at the situation based on ten minutes data from 1959 , extrapolated it to 2273 and then destroyed assets we'd have found really useful now.

 

The lesson is not to choose until you either know or have to.

 

If the answer turns out to be atomic hover boards Trev will be able to find another use for his charging points or just them go the way of horse mounting steps.

 

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53 minutes ago, Andy m said:

If the answer turns out to be atomic hover boards Trev will be able to find another use for his charging points or just them go the way of horse mounting steps.

 

Andy 

 

If motorcycle seat heights continue to rise I can see the horse steps making a comeback.. ;) 

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Trev
1 hour ago, Andy m said:

If the answer turns out to be atomic hover boards Trev will be able to find another use for his charging points or just them go the way of horse mounting steps.

 

Andy 

 

The way mobile phones are growing we'll probably soon need them as phone chargers :D

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I suspect the Gubment would really love to be able to control how freely people move around. Be so much easier to run things if the peasants just stayed put and toiled from their hovels.:devil:

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Rev Ken
On 10/07/2019 at 15:32, Rocker66 said:

If as the media regularly informs is tue then many small businesses are operating on small:margins and really don’t need all the extra expense. I agree every little bit helps but it’s a long way from helping everyone. What happens to somebody who lives in a rural area and needs their own transport to get to work when the government price petrol out of their range and their i/c powered vehicle is worth next to nothing because nobody wants one so they can’t afford a EV. As usual everything is aimed at those with a reasonable income without considering those living from week to week.

I do see the need for a gradual introduction of EVs. I wrote an MOT scheme for Malta and I warned that if introduced immediately on all vehicles it would price out the poorer owners whose cars failed and they couldn't afford to repair them. this would raise the price of the next oldest vehicles that just passed their MOT, but heading for expensive repairs at the next MOT. I worked out a system to minimise hardship, but the government changed and I'm not sure what happened! (Anybody know???)

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58 minutes ago, Rev Ken said:

I do see the need for a gradual introduction of EVs. I wrote an MOT scheme for Malta and I warned that if introduced immediately on all vehicles it would price out the poorer owners whose cars failed and they couldn't afford to repair them. this would raise the price of the next oldest vehicles that just passed their MOT, but heading for expensive repairs at the next MOT. I worked out a system to minimise hardship, but the government changed and I'm not sure what happened! (Anybody know???)

 

Not sure but when I was last in Malta a few months ago it didn't look like they had introduced any MOT legislation going by the state of the cars

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2 hours ago, Trev said:

 

Not sure but when I was last in Malta a few months ago it didn't look like they had introduced any MOT legislation going by the state of the cars

 

I'm not sure I'd agree with that statement having lived in Malta for two years.  Most of the vehicles are reasonably well maintained.  Vehicles over four years old have to have an annual Vehicle Roadworthiness Test.  I don't believe it is as rigorous as the MOT as a certain amount of leeway is built into the system.  Furthermore, out here there will always be people who will bend the rules.  Malta is famous for corruption, as you probably know.  Occasionally VRT testers get prosecuted for fraud.  But the same thing happens in the UK, judging by a quick Google search, so I'm not sure how bad the problem is here.

 

What is a joy out here are the many 'classic' cars that can be still be seen in daily use.  For example, today while on the roads for a couple of hours on my bicycle I saw a red Hillman Hunter Estate, a cream Ford Cortina Mk 4 Estate, a Fiat 124, a 1980s Skoda (which had been rear-ended but was drivable and the rear brake lights were working!), two or three Mk 2 Transits, several 1980s and 1990s white Escort vans and a couple of forty-year old Bedford lorries.  I'm sure there were others, too, which I've forgotten or didn't register.  The point is that all these vehicles are people's daily transport, not something that is driven on Sundays once a month during the summer.

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Andy m

Ah an old favourite, should I comment on the MOT???? :angel::devil::angel::devil::D:D:D

 

I have a pet hatred of Bedford TK's and the like. The MOD kept them in a shed alongside the bows and arrows they didn't issue for the Hastings campaign (I think it was a health and safety issue, lack of goggles of something). Then they sold them to tight **** builders, loonies who want to move horses (they have legs you know) and people who never got over Action Man. What the MOD never told anyone at the auction was that the spares went out of date with Red Coats and using Welsh Male Voice choirs as offensive weapons. Said loonies then call the office every Friday at twenty to five to enquire if we sell antiques. They tend not to go away happy.

 

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TK max?

 

No?

 

I'll get me coat.

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7 minutes ago, Andy m said:

Ah an old favourite, should I comment on the MOT???? :angel::devil::angel::devil::D:D:D

 

I have a pet hatred of Bedford TK's and the like. The MOD kept them in a shed alongside the bows and arrows they didn't issue for the Hastings campaign (I think it was a health and safety issue, lack of goggles of something). Then they sold them to tight **** builders, loonies who want to move horses (they have legs you know) and people who never got over Action Man. What the MOD never told anyone at the auction was that the spares went out of date with Red Coats and using Welsh Male Voice choirs as offensive weapons. Said loonies then call the office every Friday at twenty to five to enquire if we sell antiques. They tend not to go away happy.

 

Andy 

After WW2 a guy named Joe Flagg used his pay off from the army to buy a couple of of ex army lorries. He ended up owning the largest transport fleet in the area and became a rich man and philanthropist who did a lot of good for Ashford and it’s citizens.

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Andy m

More like TK minimum serviceability.

 

Andy

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