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2019 NC750Xdct

Found this connector taped into the harness left front inside of cowl.
Green, purple, and purple with red tracer

green - continuity with ground
purple - +5v dc when key on, engine running or not
purple with red - no voltage or connectivity with other 2 wires.

Honda provided a female cap you could add pins to and make your own extension (or just to keep corrosion off wired end)

Any idea what its for?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ojdo86rlx16sk1t/connector.JPG?dl=0

 

 

 

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tw586

looks similar to the aux plug which on my MY17 is fitted to the lower L/H/S of the frunk case. 

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ncx19

I have the accessory connector as well for use with the relay kit and acc. harness at bottom rear of frunk.

 

This is up front where the shock tubes come up.

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kayz1

I think it is the ECU thingimebob dodar....Like the one i have on the x-adv if you loose the fob, lets you  start the bike with a code..Eer! i think.

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ncx19

Hi kayz1

 

Bike doesnt have a fob.  Need the key, and im not sure the key is even chipped.   But have 2 keys regardless.

 

Digging around, there is conjecture the +5v has something to do with LED lighting equiped bikes, and the 'dead' wire should be a switched 12v.

Raining today, so havent had a chance to poke around more - may need to have key on and kickstand up ???? to power up the lead??

Doesnt make sense to have a non-powered wire ... other than the green which is the ground/neg lead. 

However the connector would serve a purpose, and I'd love to know what that purpose is.

 

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kayz1

Is it for the plug to put it into dealer mode to read fault codes?

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ncx19

researched this in service manual and drawings.

 

Couple things come to mind, and having a DCT, it could be an unused connector for clutch lever position.

+5 supply and the dead wire a return, but why the green wire?  So doubt thats it,

 

Also considered as you suggested it was a communications link. I havent seen a reference to an OBD connector, but one would expect there to be one on an EFI engine with an ECM.  Looking back at my RS232 years, RX,TX, and ground.  Using inline checker, there was always one lead from either end with power to light the checkers LED for that line, so it could easily be  a data line (not necessarily a serial link, but no matter what the protocol, would have similar electrical characteristics.)

 

Of course all this is speculation, and would be great if there was a Honda tech on this site that knew of the purpose for that connector.

 

I had the bike running, in gear, sidestand up, and monitored the pu/rd lead while trying every switch to see if something powered it up.

 

At any rate, its info for the folks on here to leave it alone for purposes of looking for an easy location for accessory power.

I'm now leaning to a data port unless someone has a better explanation.

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outrunner

The OBD connector on my 2016X dct is in the battery compartment and is coloured red.

 

 

Andy.

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McGyver

It's the connector for the OEM heated grips.

 

Indeed there's a communications link as the OEM heated grips enable an indicator on the dashboard.

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ncx19

PLOT TWIST

 

My accessory relay kit arrived, and the harness is back-ordered another month (&^%^$).
So I went ahead installing the accessory relay and fuse if you can call it installing lol.

On a hunch, I retested the Purple/Red wire with the relay kit installed , got +12v, with ign/ on.
Removed relay - dead. Put back  ... on.

So while the relay kit fires up the Accessory connector behind the frunk bottom, it also enables the purple/red in the 3 pin connector in the front of the bike ... left, inside of cowl near front fork tubes.

For some folks this might be an easier solution than removing all the bodywork to install the wiring harness if all you need is an ign. controlled 12v

So got to install my 2xUSB3.0/voltmeter outlet. I chopped off the 3 wire connector, heat shrink tip to insulate the purple/white dot +5.
Installed my own 2 position connector.

Did this, as its easier to add another 2 pos connector for another accessory on to the leads on the USB accessory side - as I left those long enough to work on outside of the steering cavity.  Soldered connections and dressed with heat shrink and split loom.

Still no idea what the connector is for originally - though McGyver's comment sounds like ticket .. esp. now we know that the purple/red supplies 12v with the accessory relay kit installed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2jl5uxjv3nlktkq/IMG_8986.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jonpxesfh9ysq3m/IMG_3925.JPG?dl=0

 

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MikeBike
On 23/08/2019 at 00:48, ncx19 said:

2019 NC750Xdct

Found this connector taped into the harness left front inside of cowl.
Green, purple, and purple with red tracer

green - continuity with ground
purple - +5v dc when key on, engine running or not
purple with red - no voltage or connectivity with other 2 wires.

Honda provided a female cap you could add pins to and make your own extension (or just to keep corrosion off wired end)

Any idea what its for?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ojdo86rlx16sk1t/connector.JPG?dl=0

 

 

 

On wiring diagrams Ive seen for my 2015 bike there is what's called an OPTON B connector with green and purple/red which branches off the OPTION A connector for the sub harness.

Both are only enabled with the fuse / relay kit.

The option B was for the lighting kit I believe.

So it seems like a wire has been added for the nwer bikes (2016+?) with the +5V. Handy as stated if you just need a switched supply especially at the front of the bike.

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ncx19

Have had it verified now that the connector on the '17 up is a 3 pin for the heated grip kit.

 

gn ground

pu/rd +12 for the heated grips (enabled by the relay kit and fuse)

pu/wh +5 for the grip switch controller LED, and input signal to the  dash display from the controller

 

McGyver  nailed it.  Nice to close the loop on the thread  :) than leave it in any doubt.

 

Pre '17 models its a 2 pin apparently

 

 

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wingrider.steve
19 hours ago, ncx19 said:

Have had it verified now that the connector on the '17 up is a 3 pin for the heated grip kit.

 

gn ground

pu/rd +12 for the heated grips (enabled by the relay kit and fuse)

pu/wh +5 for the grip switch controller LED, and input signal to the  dash display from the controller

 

McGyver  nailed it.  Nice to close the loop on the thread  :) than leave it in any doubt.

 

Pre '17 models its a 2 pin apparently

 

 

My 2016 NC750X has that same 3 pin connector, it's where my OEM heated grips were connected.

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Martin bond
On 23/08/2019 at 00:48, ncx19 said:

2019 NC750Xdct

Found this connector taped into the harness left front inside of cowl.
Green, purple, and purple with red tracer

green - continuity with ground
purple - +5v dc when key on, engine running or not
purple with red - no voltage or connectivity with other 2 wires.

Honda provided a female cap you could add pins to and make your own extension (or just to keep corrosion off wired end)

Any idea what its for?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ojdo86rlx16sk1t/connector.JPG?dl=0

 

 

 

 For NC750X. 2015 on

 Honda provides a Sub Harness part No 08A70-MJL-D30 which plugs in to the 6 pin connector provided on the bikes wiring loom. You will also need the relay and fuse kit 08A70-MGS-D30

There are three wires on the 6 pin connector on the bikes loom.  (pictured below)

·         Red/white which has +12V, switched from the ignition

·         Purple that has +12V switched with the High beam

·         Green wire to ground/ earth

 

The two wires that have +12v only do so when the key is in the on position and the fuse and relay have been installed in the indicated place in the fuse box.

 

This the sub harness part No 08A70-MJL-D30   &   Relay / Fuse  kit   08A70-MGS-D30

When connected to the auxiliary plug on the bike. this loom this provides 3 output sockets, 2 of these have 2 wires, Brown & Green. The 3rd has 3 wires Brown, Green & Blue.

Sockets 1 & 2 have the following wire configuration.

·         Brown  =   12v+ switched with ignition on

·         Green =     Ground / earth -

Socket 3 has the following wire configuration.

·         Brown  =   12v+ switched with ignition on

·         Green =     Ground / earth -

·         Blue  = 12v+ switched from High beam

 

 

 

 

Sockets 1 & 2 can be used in the following way.

 For any accessory that needs an ignition controlled supply such as Sat Nav, Mobile Phone, or accessory socket. With a max load of 5 amp for both sockets. 

If you are fitting heated grips that require more than 5 amps you will need to fit an additional relay into the circuit operated by the brown wire, and a direct fused + 12v feed from the battery for the main +12v supply to the grips. ( if you are not confident in this consult a qualified electrician or a motorcycle dealer. A damaged ECU or wiring loom is Expensive !!!)

 

The 3rd Socket is for auxiliary lighting.

If you are LED fitting day time lights that you wish to be permanently on then you need only the green – ground/ earth wire and the +12v brown wire.

If you are fitting high amperage Halogen auxilliary lights You will need to fit an additional relay into the circuit operated by the brown wire, and a direct 10amp fused + 12v feed from the battery for the main +12v supply to the lights. ( if you are not confident in this consult a qualified electrician or a motorcycle dealer. A damaged ECU or wiring loom is Expensive !!!)

 

If you are fitting additional LED High Beam Spot lights and wish them to operate with the high beam then you will need to use the green – ground/ earth wire and the blue wire +12v to trigger the lights ( the brown wire is not used.)

If the lights are high amperage Halogen spot lights. You will need to fit an additional relay into the circuit operated by the brown wire, and a direct 10amp fused + 12v feed from the battery for the main +12v supply to the lights.  ( if you are not confident in this consult a qualified electrician or a motorcycle dealer. A damaged ECU or wiring loom is Expensive !!!)

 

 

I will be putting up additional wiring posts in the near future for additional lights etc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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turgut kalfaoglu

Does anyone know the make / model of that connector? I am trying to build my own sub-harness after the local Honda asked for an outragious amount and that auction site takes too long.

Many thanks, -t

 

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