Slow starting

[ncmf 87]

My 700S has bern a little slow to start the last few times .  I put a K&N filter in a few days ago, might it be related to this, or what else might cause this?

[Guest bonekicker]

Is it not your battery? it as gone a lot colder in the mornings--I would not think a air filter would cause the problem--you did take the cling film off it??

[bazza 3,629]

a little leaner - does the 'puter need telling of the free'er flowing air-ask the supplier!

[Guest Badger77]

When you say 'slow starting', do you mean that the engine is turning over slowly, or do you mean it's taking more cranking to get the engine to fire?

[Tex 36,817]

When you say 'slow starting', do you mean that the engine is turning over slowly, or do you mean it's taking more cranking to get the engine to fire?

 

Exactly that. One symptom would point you one way and the other would point you, er, the other..

[embee 7,288]

Air filter won't make any difference at idle or cranking, the air flow is so low that any difference in pressure drop (dP) will be negligible . dP goes with flow rate squared, so even if when cranking it flowed 10% of maximum (it doesn't), the dP would be only 1% of the max. Any differences in filter performance would be infinitesimal at idle.

 

The saying goes that batteries become terminally ill (sic) over summer, but die as soon as winter comes. Warm weather hides the tiredness, as soon as the temps drop into single figures it falls over. I'd suspect this is the issue here.

[noj 365]

Yip, sounds like the battery. Same happend to mine on the D/V around this time a couple of yers ago. fresh Battery and wham, back to normal.

[Grumpy old man 4,682]

Why have they got rid of the kickstarters?

[Guest GBH]

Why have they got rid of the kickstarters?

 

Same reason they got rid of starting handles for cars I guess 

[Grumpy old man 4,682]

Same reason they got rid of starting handles for cars I guess

Having used starting handles on cars and Kickstarts I wouldn't really compare them

[trisaki 2,029]

Put a Meyer across battery terminals and turn ignition on if voltage drops like a stone to under 12v chuck battery away and fit a new un if it stays around 12.3 or above stick it on charge and then try again

[Slowboy 20,541]

Same reason they got rid of starting handles for cars I guess 

Kick starters, luxury. When I were a lad we had to run and bump it, and lick road clean wit' tongue on the way to work in t' mill and down t' pit. And you tell the kids today and they don't believe you.

[Grumpy old man 4,682]

You too!?

[Guest EasyTiger]

Run and bump, boys? Luxury... When I were a kid we had to get up before we went to bed, light a fire under the frozen engine to warm it up, blister our fingers pulling off an engine cover, stick a wrench on the crankshaft bolt, siphon a mouthful of petrol from the mayor's car, run back and spit it into the carburettor, turn over the engine to free it with the twins on the end of a piece of scaffold slipped over the wrench, point it down slagheap for a hundred yards before letting clutch in in third, and then lick road clean wit' tongue on the way to work in t' mill and down t' pit. At neet you had to push bike all way back oop hill. All on a piece of bread and dripping on Sundays. And you tell the kids today and they don't believe you.

[ncmf 87]

Hi, thanks for the input.  I think I will get a spare battery just in case.

 

It has been better since though.  And it wasn't only when cold.

[Derek_Mac 1,404]

Having used starting handles on cars and Kickstarts I wouldn't really compare them

 I don't know about that, other than the fact one is used by hand and the other by foot, they both involve using physical effort to start an engine.

 

 Edit: All the same principle to me.

Edited September 29, 2015 by Derek_Mac

[Grumpy old man 4,682]

"I don't know about that, other than the fact one is used by hand and the other by foot, they both involve using physical effort to start an engine."

Edit: All the same principle to

On a bike you're all dressed up for the weather foot on the kickstart and Away you go it might kick back but no hardship. In a car search through the boot for the starting handle fiddle through a hole in the front grill try and find the pulley spin the engine if she kicks back you might dislocate your thumb if you're not holding the handle properly, put the handle back and hope the car doesn't cut out while you doing all this.

When did they actually stop fitting Kickstarts?

Edited September 29, 2015 by Grumpy old man

[Rocker66 34,469]

Kawasaki were fitting them on the W650 up until 2006

[Guest a2amali]

The 2015 Royal Enfield motorbikes still have a kick starter.

 

They look totally retro and with single 500cc cylender it sounds uniquely amazing.

[noj 365]

Alot of the chineee and indian bikes, keyway, and such all have kickstarts.