zeerocks23 32 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) I was doing a bit of work on my 2021 NC750X. Removed the pillion seat and managed to drop one of the nuts and it disappeared down the rear mudguard (rear fender?) between the tank and mudguard. Is there a quick way to disconnect the forward end of the mudguard to see if I can retrieve the nut? At the same time recover the washer from the rear seat stay that disappeared the same route. Can the side cover be removed without removing all the fairings in front of it? Edited November 13, 2023 by zeerocks23 Link to post
Xactly 5,432 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Not having a 2021 I can’t help but most of the rattles on my 2020 were from unretrieved washers, nuts and, yes, a socket…..Good luck! 4 Link to post
Andy m 23,546 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 It's a hideous Kumiki of brittle plastic. IIRC you need to free up the fairing to remove the side panels. You Tube? Try fishing with a magnet or long screwdriver with a blob of grease on the end first. Or just buy a new fastener and let vibration send the old one back into the wild. Andy 2 1 1 Link to post
RC166 694 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I agree with Andy, gotta b a magnet or blob of grease on a stick trick. Telescopic magnet thingy is one of my handiest tools. Link to post
zeerocks23 32 Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 I'll have a look tomorrow. see what I can see. Link to post
Graham 3,163 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I remember doing a similar thing with my 2014 model. I bought a new bolt. 3 Link to post
Gringo 5,117 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Pick the bike up and give it a shake . Chances are it'll do not harm where it is and will shake itself free when you go for a spin. Grease on a stick as suggested above works a treat. I've used a telescopic magnet in the past which also works well. Good luck. 1 Link to post
zeerocks23 32 Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Managed to get the side panels off without removing the rear cowl. Just take out the plastic rivet. (good to know). i have a cheap endocsope thing so had a poke about in the space above the mudguard (rear fender B?). Managed to find the washer and retrieved with the magnet attachment on the 'scope. I was considering going through and removing the mudguard but would have been a day at it with all the stuff removed. (seats, rear cowl, fender A, rear light etc.) And no guarantee of finding the lost nut or that I'd not lose more fasteners in the process. Decided to take your collective advice and leave it be. Got a replacement nut so if the lost one is shaken out on the next trip so be it. Noticed that the fasteners at the top of the shock unit are crusty rusty. Think the bike had winter use by last owner. 2 Link to post
MatBin 5,092 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I guarantee if you take everything off you won't find the missing item. Then 2 days later having bought new item you will find missing item on the floor near the bike. Glad it's worked out ok. 3 4 Link to post
zeerocks23 32 Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 I think my main lesson is if working on anything above the seats, cover the tank area back to the tail light with a cloth just in case bits get dropped. 1 1 Link to post
john mackay 714 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) when I removed the panels off to get them resprayed. a few things fell on the floor to that was lost at some point. lol Edited November 17, 2023 by john mackay 3 Link to post
Andy m 23,546 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Look what plopped out of the Cub's sprocket cover when I removed it to refit the chain This little @#$ started in the ignition switch cover up by the head stock. I assume it either travelled down the legshield or described some sort of parabola as it shot off the screwdriver. Anyway, that's a wood screw saved for another day. Andy Link to post
Slowboy 20,506 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andy m said: Look what plopped out of the Cub's sprocket cover when I removed it to refit the chain This little @#$ started in the ignition switch cover up by the head stock. I assume it either travelled down the legshield or described some sort of parabola as it shot off the screwdriver. Anyway, that's a wood screw saved for another day. Andy Be careful Andy, you have revealed and example of the mystical migration and displacement in time and space of the feared self releasing, self taping fairing retaining screw. These are rumoured to have a life force of their own and no one has ever successfully discovered their real intent and purpose. All we really know is that they end up in other parts of the vehicle, often over a foot away from where they originated. Are they struggling to secure the veneration of the threaded fittings, the cast fittings or the rotating equipment? Are they attempting a takeover of the whole machine or trying to encourage other fittings that are committed to holding things together to take their own, looser approach? I believe you’ve had a lucky escape and may have avoided a rapid unscheduled dismantlement that must surely follow the revolutionary influence of these poorly focused fasteners. I believe the only way to combat them is, when found they are placed in a correctional vortex with other malingering fasteners, an old jam jar is favourite as it focusses the Ley lines and prevents further migration. It is better if these are then placed on a high shelf behind an old, nearly empty, oil can and only released when the vehicle from which they came has moved on, possibly years later. Those of us who’ve encountered them fear them….. Sir Plumbly Xavier Box-Ovfrogs. Whoop whopp and toodle pip. Edited November 18, 2023 by Slowboy 5 Link to post
listener 11,189 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 A case of quantum disentanglement, innit?! Somewhere in the universe a left-handed screw has simultaneously reinserted itself into a hole after evacuating a sprocket cover. 1 Link to post
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