Fitting rear shock.

[FurstyFerret 66]

Anyone know which side/way the two dots on the bottom of the rearshock are supposed to face?

 

Hyperpro rear shock fitted and mechanic reckons it's leaking gas, rebound adjustment hasn't functioned properly from the off. So. Refitting the old shock whilst the Hyperpro gets sent back to Hyperpro. 

[FurstyFerret 66]

1 hour ago, FurstyFerret said:

Anyone know which side/way the two dots on the bottom of the rearshock are supposed to face?

 

Hyperpro rear shock fitted and mechanic reckons it's leaking gas, rebound adjustment hasn't functioned properly from the off. So. Refitting the old shock whilst the Hyperpro gets sent back to Hyperpro. 

Facing the chain side if anyone needs it.

[Bunzena 8]

I've also replaced by OEM shock with a Hyperpro unit.

 

99% sure that the 'dots' [casting marks?] on the bottom of the OEM shock were to the left as you look from the back of the bike.  Looking in the workshop manual, the picture is small - but looks to confirm this.  Hope this helps.

 

I'm very curious about the issues you have with the Hyperpro.  I've recently fitted mine and it's 'noisy'.  When I bounce the bike there's a slightly gritty/squeaky noise. 

 

All the bearings were properly greased on fitting - and I took care to keep everything clean.  So my best guess is that the noise is probably fluid passing through the valves inside the shock.  If I tweak the damping to it's most aggressive setting - the noise is much less - with softer damping the noise is more obvious.

 

I've only had a short test ride and it seems to be an improvement on the OEM shock.  But seeing your post about a potentially faulty shock from Hyperpro, I wondered if your experience could shed any light on this?

 

Many thanks.

[ScaredyCat 1,659]

Can I ask your reasoning for not going stock again?

 

Just interested as I've just replaced mine with another OEM one. 

[FurstyFerret 66]

5 hours ago, Bunzena said:

I've also replaced by OEM shock with a Hyperpro unit.

 

99% sure that the 'dots' [casting marks?] on the bottom of the OEM shock were to the left as you look from the back of the bike.  Looking in the workshop manual, the picture is small - but looks to confirm this.  Hope this helps.

 

I'm very curious about the issues you have with the Hyperpro.  I've recently fitted mine and it's 'noisy'.  When I bounce the bike there's a slightly gritty/squeaky noise. 

 

All the bearings were properly greased on fitting - and I took care to keep everything clean.  So my best guess is that the noise is probably fluid passing through the valves inside the shock.  If I tweak the damping to it's most aggressive setting - the noise is much less - with softer damping the noise is more obvious.

 

I've only had a short test ride and it seems to be an improvement on the OEM shock.  But seeing your post about a potentially faulty shock from Hyperpro, I wondered if your experience could shed any light on this?

 

Many thanks.

Almost immediately the Rebound was not clicking on the shock. Hyperpro's advice was to open the Rebound all the way, ride (carefully) for two miles, then adjust. This worked each time, but only for one adjustment. In the end I was just opening it fully then bouncing the rear up and down to get it to click and only on the increase adjustment.

 

Over about four months the ride began to feel progressively harsh till it was like the suspension had been replaced with a bag of wet sand. The ride has become really harsh. High speed (c.60-70mph)bumps feel like you're losing vertebrae (which was where the 27k [now back on] left off).

 

Went to a suspension specialist to get them to look at the setup in case it was me (spanner monkey), but without knowing about the above they suggested gas had gone on the shock.

 

It made a squishing gas sound at one point when bouncing the rear at a standstill also. Was fitted c. September, issues with it pretty much throughout Winter to now. At no time has the ride been "amazing", but again - roads are also really bad.

[FurstyFerret 66]

1 minute ago, ScaredyCat said:

Can I ask your reasoning for not going stock again?

 

Just interested as I've just replaced mine with another OEM one. 

The stock basically has no adjustment, was atrocious (in my case) 27k miles in, and the roads around here are beyond bad. Saw a lot of people with YSS shock success and in my imagination, the Hyperpro was going to give a "Magic Carpet" type ride to a high mileage commuter that was becoming so uncomfortable it was (is) difficult to commute on.

[ScaredyCat 1,659]

5 minutes ago, FurstyFerret said:

The stock basically has no adjustment, was atrocious (in my case) 27k miles in, and the roads around here are beyond bad. Saw a lot of people with YSS shock success and in my imagination, the Hyperpro was going to give a "Magic Carpet" type ride to a high mileage commuter that was becoming so uncomfortable it was (is) difficult to commute on.

 

Wow 27k - I was at 56k when mine went. I'm a chunky chap so I don't have any issues with the stock (also replaced the seat). It does feel a lot better now but the change was a little while ago when it just felt way too bouncy. Are the Hyperpros spendy? I know I had to wait a couple of weeks for the stock one to arrive and it wasn't cheap. 

[Skidt 1,316]

9 hours ago, ScaredyCat said:

Are the Hyperpros spendy?

You can get a “Streetbox” kit, with a remote preload adjuster for an early NC for just over £800 iirc. Obviously it’s less without the remote adjuster. They’re built to order I believe, so you might have a few weeks wait for delivery. 
 

There’s a very good review / thread on here from Viator, who fitted the same to his 2021 NC? Well worth a read if you’re thinking about it. On this thread there’s a link to a YouTube review from Chris Moss who recommended the upgrade. 

[FurstyFerret 66]

11 hours ago, ScaredyCat said:

 

Wow 27k - I was at 56k when mine went. I'm a chunky chap so I don't have any issues with the stock (also replaced the seat). It does feel a lot better now but the change was a little while ago when it just felt way too bouncy. Are the Hyperpros spendy? I know I had to wait a couple of weeks for the stock one to arrive and it wasn't cheap. 

Some people have been happy with the NC's suspension, some unhappy. I'm in the later group.

 

I got a 15% discount through Bennets (insurance), if they're running the Bike Social membership (which I believe you can get even if you don't insure with them) it may be worth getting it for the discount (obviously checking if you'll get the discount you want first).

 

Think I was swayed by the reputation/made in Holland, etc. If I had my time again, I'd probably go YSS because people seem happy with them, they are very familiar with the NC, and also, again, a shock built for Thai countryside roads is probably a better match for the UK than a shock built with familiarity of Dutch countryside roads in mind. 

[oldwisedude 14]

I've been following threads about suspension upgrades for years, relating to every bike I've owned, because the stock suspensions of those bikes have always been compromised by manufacturer's budgets to keep the on-the-road price competitive. 

 

We are very limited with upgrade options for the NC range. Neither K Tech nor Nitron list NC applications. Regarding Hyperpro, their fork kit does nothing to upgrade the crude valving and their rear shock cannot be serviced in the Uk - it has to go back to Holland.

 

In the past I have fitted K Tech, Nitron, Maxton and RaceTech to various different bikes, all of which benefitted from much better tracking, handling, comfort and confidence.

 

I have recently ordered Maxton SD20 fork cartridges and an NR4 rear shock for my 2023 NC750X-DCT.  Big expenditure - yes!  Worth the money - personal choice, I'll find out soon!  Appropriate upgrade - probably overkill but I tend to like good things. Its a bit like hifi really - you can get a decent system at affordable cost, but to achieve that last 10% of realistic believability you have to spend ten times as much.

 

I'll report back in a few weeks after I've installed the Maxtons

[RC166 696]

I’ve got Maxton front and rear on my 2018 DCT. Fortunately, fitted by previous owner. Huge improvement, the stock front end particularly, was bloody awful. 

[VinnyB 718]

Nitron wil now have front and rear supension mods available for 21- NC750X. They used my bike as development bike, they fitted cartridge front and NTR1 rear shock with HPA rear.

Edited Tuesday at 12:06 by VinnyB

[Viator 1,526]

30 minutes ago, VinnyB said:

Nitron wil now have front and rear supension mods available for 21- NC750X. They used my bike as development bike, they fitted cartridge front and NTR1 rear shock with HPA rear.

Hi @VinnyB have you/will you be writing up a review on your Nitron set up as I would be as interested as I am in learning about @oldwisedude's impressions of his Maxton set up in due course👍I had planned to change my NC this year but if I can improve further on my HyperPro set up I may keep it a while longer.

[VinnyB 718]

I probably will once I've done a few more miles on a wider variety of roads. I rode it about 130 miles back home on Friday, mainly motorway and dual carriageway and it was obviously way better than standard, the rear is spot on now I've wound out a couple of turns of preload but the front is still a touch firm for my preference so I'll wind out the preload on the forks too. I'm sure once it's dialled in properly for me it'll be great.

Edited Tuesday at 17:09 by VinnyB