NOT another oil thread

[Dunders 38]

Hi, all,

 

I can't remember what oil I put into the NC (2018 - not DCT) last time.  It's me age, y'know.  Does it matter if I had used semi and now put fully Synth (or vice versa) in?  I'm not changing the filter.

 

The problem with the amount of info on t'interweb about oil is that it leaves me utterly confused.  I only used dino oil in my old Guzzi's!

 

Thanks for any elucidation.  Though I suspect more confusion is coming my way!  

 

Paul

[Slowboy 25,328]

11 minutes ago, Dunders said:

Hi, all,

 

I can't remember what oil I put into the NC (2018 - not DCT) last time.  It's me age, y'know.  Does it matter if I had used semi and now put fully Synth (or vice versa) in?  I'm not changing the filter.

10w-40 semi or fully synthetic will be ok, why not change the filter while your at it, it can’t hurt. Your call though.

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The problem with the amount of info on t'interweb about oil is that it leaves me utterly confused.  I only used dino oil in my old Guzzi's!

Ah well….😁

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Thanks for any elucidation.  Though I suspect more confusion is coming my way!  

Paul

Hope that helps

Edited July 2 by Slowboy

[Trev 24,347]

Oh dear, oh dear, oh

 dear, you've gone and done it now ........ @Dunders 🤣

[Dunders 38]

18 minutes ago, Slowboy said:

10w-40 semi or fully synthetic will be ok, why not change the filter while your at it, it can’t hurt. Your call though.

Ah well….😁

Hope that helps

Don't have a filter to hand.  Not due.  Laziness.  Now look what you've done!  I shall order one immediately!  And I can put off the oil change.....  That helped:-))

[Xactly 6,117]

Erm, 10-30 is specified, I believe. Sorry.

[Slowboy 25,328]

6 minutes ago, Xactly said:

Erm, 10-30 is specified, I believe. Sorry.

It is for the DCT motor. I thought it was 10W-40 for the manual versions (I still do😁). Happy to be corrected though.😇

[Andy m 27,490]

10-W-30 on most Hondas now, not sure if/where the NC changed.

 

Either way, just do what the manual says. I've had oil analysis done on two now and the results say Honda got it right. More frequent changes cause more wear, any oil you can trust to meet the spec works, anything higher wastes money. 

 

Andy 

[Dunders 38]

3 minutes ago, Slowboy said:

It is for the DCT motor. I thought it was 10W-40 for the manual versions (I still do😁). Happy to be corrected though.😇

 

The service manual says: 

RECOMMENDED ENGINE OIL:

Honda "4-stroke motorcycle oil" or an equivalent

motor oil. API classification: SG or higher

JASO T 903 standard: MA

Viscosity: SAE 10W-30

 

If only it specified semi- or fully-synthetic...  It probably does in a language unknown to me <sigh>

 

It'll get 10-40 like last time!

 

P

[Slowboy 25,328]

Fair enough, my old 700x from 2012 was 10w 40.

 

I’m just so far behind the times these days 

 

😂😂

[Xactly 6,117]

Honda changed the oil viscosity recommendation a few years ago. Every manual Honda I've bought since 2019 (5) has specified 10/30. My friend's 2016 VFR800 has both, depending on ambient air temperature. I don't know about DCT versions as I've never owned one. The rest of the spec is probably more important though.

[Andy131 1,971]

Don't forget it also says

excluding oils marked as "Energy Conserving" or "Resource Conserving".

 

[usabikes 487]

Yep, for the 2019 model the manual says: 10w-30 SG, JASO-MA irrespective if it's DCT or manual.

 

For my 2022 the only change is SJ for SG.

 

No it doesn't matter if you mix mineral with synthetic as long as they both have the same additive package (i.e. both SG for example).

[EdG 421]

The oil spec page from the 2022 NC750XA/XD Owner's Manual.

[alhendo1 3,442]

I've had two 1st/600 mile services on my CB500x/Adv350 at the main Honda dealer and on both receipts it been 10w40 semi synthetic listed.....whatever is in the workshop drum I think....but if they're happy to document it then it must satisfy their warranty....both my manuals say 10w30 though.

Enfield say 10w50 fully synthetic for the Interceptor although the main agent I know uses 10w40 fully synthetic...according to him its authorised by Royal Enfield. 

[Dunders 38]

I went to the local MotaWorld (VMCC discount...) and bought some 10W30.  The only one on the shelf.  I commented to the guy behind the counter that 10W30 was oddly difficult to source (locally) despite Honda specifying it for their bikes.  He agreed.  He buys his from the internet...

 

P

[Dan German 2,513]

Not sure if it’s different from the UK, but over here nearly every Honda since around 2007 has had a recommendation of GN4 10W30 or equivalent. That’s a mineral oil. It’s so common in Hondas that it’s the only Honda oil we carry in bulk for the shop. On some bikes, the manual may suggest different viscosities for different temperature ranges, but 10W30 is Honda’s go-to.

[poldark 2,212]

I do wonder if the RE recommended 10W50 is because of the Indian climate, perhaps there should be a World viscosity map available.

[Xactly 6,117]

Time was when you got an oil spec according to temperature ranges. As for RE I put the specified oil in mine. The Guzzi too - that was 10/60 IIRC. Why? Because they're air-cooled - it matters more because the tolerances cannot be as tight as a l/c motor because the temperatures are less stable. Given the 30 degree + we get these days I'd go for a "thicker" hot end viscosity. Interesting that the RE twin has an oil cooler....

[alhendo1 3,442]

48 minutes ago, poldark said:

I do wonder if the RE recommended 10W50 is because of the Indian climate, perhaps there should be a World viscosity map available.

That's what the dealer told me...10w40 fs more suitable for our climate.

[Xactly 6,117]

So, here we have another oil thread then.....😜

[poldark 2,212]

No Option Team

[baldric 3,024]

As @Trev said earlier, "Oh dear, oh dear". At least we are still on topic (unusual for the forum). by now we should be discussing tyre choice.

[Andy m 27,490]

5 minutes ago, Xactly said:

So, here we have another oil thread then.....😜

Which will split down the exact same lines as every oil thread;

 

Group A want to follow the manual.

Group 2 want the best for their darling precious and believe evil Mr. Honda is trying to poison it, believing instead that Castrol Super Duckhams GTR is not only full of hyper synthetic block chain stabilizers, but has that new fresh minty smell with added zing and zip. 40 being bigger than 30 proves they are correct.

Group III bought or sold something labelled "Happy Dumpling Motorcycle Oil" and want to justify it either to avoid legal action or calm down the voices in their heads.

 

No one will know the right answer until someone buys three identical motorcycles, uses them in identical ways and strips them down in 2038. 

 

Frankly no one should waste the time to care.

 

If the clutch slips you chose unwisely. If it didn't the tenth owner might not get the bargain he expected from his 80000 mile bike. Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

 

Andy 

 

 

[Trev 24,347]

Just now, baldric said:

As @Trev said earlier, "Oh dear, oh dear". At least we are still on topic (unusual for the forum). by now we should be discussing tyre choice.

 

Now that IS a challenge, how long can this thread stay on topic? 💪🏼

[Andy m 27,490]

2 minutes ago, baldric said:

As @Trev said earlier, "Oh dear, oh dear". At least we are still on topic (unusual for the forum). by now we should be discussing tyre choice.

Tubeless.

 

2 minutes ago, Trev said:

 

, how long can this thread stay on topic? 💪🏼

Not long

 

Andy