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Cavitation? You'll need the flux capacitor resetting and a full rebuild of the thrunging sprocket defibrilator if you've got that. Don't let them fob you off with reconditioning the critical assembly or terminal case as it can cause a distended flotation bladder and associated throup. Andy

But a lot easier to ride if you have a bad wrist!

I forgot to say that my FJ1200 has an oil level (as opposed to oil pressure) warning light. Very handy on a bike with six figure miles that burns a little oil.

And is there any wonder sometimes? The sad thing is that the dealer probably knew you were correct but cannot simply bring themselves to admit that they were wrong - such is their arrogance. I once had a Suzuki SX4 (car). Brand new, and after a couple of weeks I could smell diesel and see traces of it on the nearside front sill. The dealer gave me a loan car whilst they investigated. Their service manager rang me up the next day to say I'd probably ran over some diesel on a garage forecourt - I insisted that wasn't the case, there was far too much and asked him to

What oil did you use? If it's 10W-40 it's too thick and makes the gearshift jerky when cold. It should be 10W-30.

Check for tight links in the chain aim for 35 -to 40mm chain slack at the tightest point in the chain

Thank you very much! I'm pretty confident they will be the same for my model, and those values look right for the size of the bolts involved. Dunx

I can't help with that exact model, but for my 2016 NC750X DCT the torques are: Front axle: 74Nm Front axle pinch bolt: 22Nm Caliper mounting bolts: 30Nm

Yep, just checked a few manuals from rides past, and every Honda I've owned, where they had a dipstick was used dipstick unscrewed with cap resting against the threads. the current stable is; Honda C90 - dipstick unscrewed Triumph Daytona - dipstick screwed in Kawasaki GT750 - dipstick sat on seat only as it has a sight glass.😁

It increases the chance of a problem. If the bike burns or leaks a bit you have to spot it sooner. The oil is working harder so will be worn out earlier. In most cases you could double the oil change interval,so no problem, but if you are in the 1% where 8000 is the correct interval you may be reducing the engine life. Modern engines are very tough and marketing concerns have caused them to have much more intensive servicing than they need but it isn't a good thing to do. My biggest concern is that if this dealer doesn't know such basic info, what else have they stuffed up? Andy

But the case of the oil level check the manual is absolutely correct. My service manual, paper copy bought direct from Honda, must have been corrected re valve clearances. Very disappointing that your dealer should not know this about their product.

£60 an hour. Shake my head.

I'm horrified to see this. Really. Every bike those clowns service is going out a third of a litre short of oil.. Starts with 'W' and rhymes with 'anchors'.. Some Triumphs (and others) require the dipstick to be screwed in, but a bloody dealer should know what's what.

Get a new dealer obviously a real Dipstick !

I agree with Murray (embee) and the comments above. The manual is correct. I always measure the 'exact' amount of oil required as per Honda handbook when I do the oil change. Then I check again using the dip-stick method described in the manual. The reading is always within tolerance. If I put the dipstick all the way home and read the level, it is too high. Hope that helps. -Mark-

Misprint my asre! Honda state clearly how to check it, no ambiguity. Do what the manual says not some spotty oik on work placement or his idiot suited charlatan boss. Just my opinion.

Ask for the 300ml of oil back. Your method is right and the oil is your property! I have an "end of warranty service". Its usually at about 3000 miles when I can't be bothered with the dealer and go DIY! Andy

I've always done it the way that you do, I suspect they were talking a load of b*ll*cks. I just do what it says in the Honda Service manual. The only way to check is to actually ask Honda I suppose.

I have just returned home from the Honda dealer after having a "end of warranty check" on my 2015 750s. No problems found accept I was told that the engine level was overfilled and they had drained out about 300ml. I queried this as I check the oil on a regular basis (as I'm sure we all do). They told me to check the oil level by screwing the dipstick/oil filler ALL the way in, put the bike in an upright position (no centre stand... yet!) then check the oil level. However, the manual clearly states to seat the filler cover but NOT to screw it in! I queried this with them an