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Mike5100

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wingrider.steve

A good powder coater will have no problem masking off the areas you mention including the bearing recesses where the various bearings, spacers and seals fit (items items 8, 9, 13 and parts 19 to 25 on that drawing)

They will also mask-off bolt holes but having said that I always run a tap through them just to make sure the threads are clean.

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Slowboy
On 04/02/2017 at 11:49, Mike5100 said:

I have sent a pic to the dealer to report it to Honda, but from past experience they do not want to know about this kind of complaint.  They seem to listen to other forum compliants though and make good mods as the model years evolve.  Seems a relatively cheap and eaay fix for them to get the swingarm paint sorted out but it's 4-5 years now and 3 model incarnations and still happening.

Mike

Mike,

you might like to look at these. I have just popped out to the garage to take a couple of pictures of both sides. Apologies for the dirt, I was out on it yesterday and last night. Remember this is on a four and a half year old bike with over 28k. Never jetwashed and only cleaned with a sponge and soapy water, using a car liquid soap, never washing up liquid as it contains salt. There is no paint flaking at all. As you can see, it's not a pampered bike.

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I still think how they are cared for makes a significant difference.

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Mike5100

Not quite sure whether you are saying in your last comment that overcaring for the bike is causing the problem.  I am beginning to worry a bit about acf50, as where the flaking is happening on mine is exactly where I have been brushing acf50.  I may well have brushed it around the end can bracket too which is the other place it's flaking.

Mike

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Slowboy
19 minutes ago, Mike5100 said:

Not quite sure whether you are saying in your last comment that overcaring for the bike is causing the problem.  I am beginning to worry a bit about acf50, as where the flaking is happening on mine is exactly where I have been brushing acf50.  I may well have brushed it around the end can bracket too which is the other place it's flaking.

Mike

Mike,

no criticism was implied, sorry if that's how it came across. It could be the ACF, wouldn't know to be honest. I never use abrasive cleaners either, only a sponge and soapy water as I said. I am always a bit suspicious of "miracle cure" treatments. Having worked in ship repair and maintenance for many years, I have seen a few, and don't recall any that lived up to their billing. Regular maintenance and a bit of careful graft has, in my experience, proved to be more effective. Even powder coating won't completely solve the problem, the rear swing arm lives in a very aggressive environment, no coating likes sharp edges, like at the rear by the adjusters and powder coating doesn't like vibration and can get a bit brittle and micro crack, and the the corrosion goes on unseen underneath until it either fails or the coating strips off in a sheet.

Corrosion is a vey complex issue, and a specialist area of engineering and science in itself, with complex physical and organic factors. (Look up Micro-biological Induced Corrosion on ships and structures in the seas around the world if you really need a mind stretcher, bane of my latter career)

Thats why I'm a bit sceptical about the various "cures" as with other aspects of life, one size never fits all.

A bit of touch up paint, with a zinc primer underneath would get your looking better at least. And no mines never been touched up. (Ooo eer Mrs) 

Regards

Brian

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My swingarm is chipped at the end and also on right hand side. I noticed that when I have got the bike back from a service a couple fo time that the end of swing arm is chipped. I put mine down to the service guys not always being careful when adjusting the chain and letting the rear break rest on the swing arm when they take the wheel out / clean up the breaks.

 

When I do it myself im always careful and use rags on the swing arm to protect it when removing brake caliper and wheel.

 

My bike is just over 1.5 years old and 34k now so I am a little more 'oh well', however I have thought when I next change the chain of having the swing-arm powder costed and swapping out a few of the corded bolts where i missed the ACF 50, as other than that bike looks great and you would not know the miles

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