Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Does anyone know if the procedure is the same for the latest bike (I am still waiting for my workshop manual ordered about a month ago)? I have noticed that sometimes the dct is still pushing as I come to a stop whereas on my previous 2 bikes I never noticed this. I have also noticed a roughness at very low speeds, and think this might be connected. When I first got the bike I was impressed with how smooth the reprogramming for a softer clutch at low speeds had seemed, so I think something has changed and maybe recalibration will help. Mike Link to post
Guest machinman Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Hi Mike, sorry I can't help, but my gripe is the same as yours. Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 Hi Mike, sorry I can't help, but my gripe is the same as yours. Is yours the 2016 bike Stuart? Mike Link to post
Guest machinman Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 No, mines a 15 and the low speed characteristics have always concerned me. For this reason, I always leave in manual in at sort of traffic or slow riding. Link to post
Guest sykospain Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Strange - never had that effect so far...throttle cable stretched / shortened ? Edited July 17, 2016 by sykospain Link to post
larryblag 14,236 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Strange - never had that effect so far...throttle cable stretched / shortened ? Alan's right, make sure your throttle free play is correct (I forget what the correct range is, but it's in the owner's manual). Adjust if required at the twist grip end. Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Hi guys - thanks for the advice. but I was really after knowing if anyone had tried the old version reset on the new 2016 bike without it causing any issues Thanks Mike Link to post
Gerrymac 202 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Hi Mike just try disconnnecting the battery for 30mins then reconnect and go for a run using all the gear modes... Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Does that really do it Gerry? I wonder why it was so complicated on the older models? Mike Link to post
gardener 126 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 After contacting Dobles on the gear problem on my new nc750x dct 2016 version, they sent me the sequence for the dct.I have not tried it yet but it is as follows.The guy on the phone checked with the mechanics before he sent it to me but it is as follows; Ignition off Step 1:Hold down the D button while turning on the ignition on, do not release the D button until the engine management light goes out Step 2 After releasing the D button, press the D button and N buttons in the following sequence D D N D N Step 3 Turn the ignition OFF sTEP 4 , Turn the ignition back on and check gear change is working. Hope that helps. Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 After contacting Dobles on the gear problem on my new nc750x dct 2016 version, they sent me the sequence for the dct.I have not tried it yet but it is as follows.The guy on the phone checked with the mechanics before he sent it to me but it is as follows; Ignition off Step 1:Hold down the D button while turning on the ignition on, do not release the D button until the engine management light goes out Step 2 After releasing the D button, press the D button and N buttons in the following sequence D D N D N Step 3 Turn the ignition OFF sTEP 4 , Turn the ignition back on and check gear change is working. Hope that helps. Brilliant Gardener. I will try that tomorrow Mike Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Hmmmm ... just got my hard copy of the 2016 workshop manual and there is a difference to the procedure quoted by Dobies. Looks like you have to hold the throttle wideopen and only close it after pressing the last N as above. Mike 1 Link to post
gardener 126 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I have not done the reset yet Mike.I will give them a call on Monday.I will contact Honda UK on Monday and let them know. Did you do the reset as in your manual Mike? Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Not yet - just been reading through it Mike Link to post
Guest shobull Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Have you tried to reset the dct? What is the working procedure for 2016 DCT? Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 exactly the same as for the earlier bikes but you have to hold the throttle wide open while you press the DDNDN sequence.. You also need to remember that the engine needs to have reached normal working temperature before you switch off and start the reset procedure. Mike Link to post
Guest shobull Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 thanks for anwer, and did it help for you? Link to post
Mike5100 2,061 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 I don't know. At the same time I topped up the engine oil by 300cc so I changed two variables at once. But whatever was the problem it felts much better afterwards. Mike Link to post
embee 7,288 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Just had an interesting test. I'd thought my clutch take up had been getting a bit abrupt recently. The initial movement would be a smooth clutch slip but then it would bite quite sharply, which spoilt the slow speed manoeuvring and for example when making a right turn at low speed. I did the DCT clutch initiation procedure, bearing in mind that this is purely for the clutch take up and nothing as such to do with gear shift patterns etc. Just been out for a run, and what a difference. Now I won't say dramatic, because it wasn't all that bad before, but the issues are completely gone. It now slips nicely as you pull away and you don't feel a "bite" at all. The 1/2/3 shifts are definitely quieter, still heard as a clonk but not as hard, and not felt as much. 4/5/6 are almost imperceptible. Also the button forced downshifts are less hard. I would say it's now back to how Honda engineers intended it to be. I now realise how it has gradually changed over the miles without me really noticing it. I think I'll get into the habit of doing the reset after each oil change. If you have any concerns at all about the clutch take up, slipping for manoeuvring etc, then do the initialisation procedure, it's free! Link to post
MikeBike 5,007 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) I did the DCT clutch initiation procedure, bearing in mind that this is purely for the clutch take up and nothing as such to do with gear shift patterns etc. Good tip -thanks. The procedure is described in the service manual section 12-120 Edited August 18, 2016 by MikeBike Link to post
Guest machinman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Cheers Embee, I'm gonna try that the weekend. Link to post
embee 7,288 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) It literally takes a couple of minutes, give it a go. Remember it needs to be at normal temperature first. Edited August 18, 2016 by embee Link to post
Guest machinman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Regarding the reset procedure, should it be done with the enine running or just ignition on? I've just done it with the ignition on, engine not running but up to temperature and didn't get anything flashing on the dash. Followed book 12-120 Edited August 18, 2016 by machinman Link to post
Guest Hati Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Or section 11, page 112 for the Integra manual. Link to post
embee 7,288 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 I have the NC700 X/S manual, the procedure is on 12-120 onwards (121 and 122). Paraphrasing the procedure and clarifying some questions raised ....... Have engine at normal temperature, check fan is not running, select neutral, switch off using key (NOT the kill switch). Don't touch the throttle during the following procedure. The 2016 appears to be different for this. Hold gear selector button on D and turn on ignition Continue to hold D until yellow check engine light (MIL) goes out, then release it press selector button in quick succession in the sequence DDNDN In the gear display the D and S will show, and the dash ( - ) should blink at 2 sec intervals the system is now ready for learning the clutch initialisation press the starter and start the engine wait for the D&S and the " - " to go out. Initialisation is now complete, you can stop the engine and then use it as normal. Note that if you have changed the ECU or clutch pack then other things can flash, but for a simple reset the above should describe it. If the dash " - " flashes rapidly at 0.5sec intervals or the D&S don't go out the procedure has failed, and you should go though the procedure again. Link to post
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