Chain lubrication

[Slowboy 20,505]

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

[Guest Crusty]

When I say faff, I mean the installation / adjustment etc. I just don't see the point when a drop of lube does the job every few hundred miles. But hey, if an oiler works for you, good on ya. :-)

[Mike5100 2,061]

I agree with you Ian.  At first  I thought the Muc-off stuff was a rip off - especially when I squirted some on and it looked like a thin watery spray, but it seems to work very well.  I put the bike on the centrestand, start spraying and spin the back wheel.  It takes about 30 seconds to do the whole chain, and 1000 miles later the chain was showing no rust at all despite riding in appalling conditions and washing it several times.  I think at about 1200 miles after a wash, some red bits started appearing.  Another dose of the muc-off spray and it's been perfect for the last 1000 miles which has included the Versys ride out round Scotland, and it meant I didn't need to take any lube or even think about the chain.

Impressed

Mike

[tc3 1,095]

I am also using Muc Off chain lube and dose the chain every 400-500 miles as it only takes a few minutes after a ride to pop it up onto the paddock stand and you get no drip or fling from the lube. Chain just looks real clean and rust free

[Guest chickenflaps]

 

 

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

 

thanks for that.  yes, my hopes are high for it once I've put some thinner oil in.  More to follow in due course.  gotta convert Crusty somehow....

[wozza 967]

I know some peeps will shout me down on this, but I personally think the NC's chain is too

thin. There is a UK based poster on the US forum who ordered replacement chain and sprockets for the next size chain up 525 pitch. He said he much preferred the larger chain and he felt the bike ran smoother.

Edited May 30, 2013 by wozza

[Guest motorboy]

I don't think it, the chain is to thin but I think it is of low quality as I found out..

[Guest chickenflaps]

 

 

 

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

 

thanks for that.  yes, my hopes are high for it once I've put some thinner oil in.  More to follow in due course.  gotta convert Crusty somehow....

 

Well, the Tutoro chain oiler is fitted and working.  I have to say it was an easy job to do and I can now ignore the chain, happy in the thought that it's getting lubed as needed.  I can only recommend it as a simple but nicely made bit of kit and worth the investment.  PS, Dave, I fitted it behind the rear nearside pillion footrest using that threaded hole as you suggested.  Neat job.

[roddy 845]

My chains last about 17000 miles lubed about once a week , the chain on my S is 11000 miles old and still looks pristine. Much ado about nothing in my opinion. 

[steelhorseuk 1,690]

My chains last about 17000 miles lubed about once a week , the chain on my S is 11000 miles old and still looks pristine. Much ado about nothing in my opinion. 

 

I am on my second chain, 1st one lasted 2000 miles and replaced under warranty due to tight spots in the links.

 

2nd one. looked after like a baby, lubed and cared for by the Honda mechanic but needs replacing in less than 1000 miles.

 

Thing is, they don't seem to surprised like they are expecting problems with them.

 

So whats that all about then?   

Edited June 4, 2013 by Smudger

[Scootabout 2,253]

 

My chains last about 17000 miles lubed about once a week , the chain on my S is 11000 miles old and still looks pristine. Much ado about nothing in my opinion. 

 

I am on my second chain, 1st one lasted 2000 miles and replaced under warranty due to tight spots in the links.

 

2nd one. looked after like a baby, lubed and cared for by the Honda mechanic but needs replacing in less than 1000 miles.

 

Thing is, they don't seem to surprised like they are expecting problems with them.

 

So whats that all about then?   

 

Are you on a DCT version and using mainly Drive mode?  You might be interested in this review by Kevin Williams of Survival Skills, especially: Ï'm also concerned about chain life.  Big singles* have always had a reputation for destroying chains in short order, and the low rev gear shifts on the auto in drive mode definitely feel like they cause chain chatter".

"http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/fun-functional-frugal-or-flawed-hondas-nc700x-tested/

 

*He knows it's not a big single, but he's drawing comparisons with the Honda Dominator.  

[steelhorseuk 1,690]

 

 

My chains last about 17000 miles lubed about once a week , the chain on my S is 11000 miles old and still looks pristine. Much ado about nothing in my opinion. 

 

I am on my second chain, 1st one lasted 2000 miles and replaced under warranty due to tight spots in the links.

 

2nd one. looked after like a baby, lubed and cared for by the Honda mechanic but needs replacing in less than 1000 miles.

 

Thing is, they don't seem to surprised like they are expecting problems with them.

 

So whats that all about then?   

 

Are you on a DCT version and using mainly Drive mode?  You might be interested in this review by Kevin Williams of Survival Skills, especially: Ï'm also concerned about chain life.  Big singles* have always had a reputation for destroying chains in short order, and the low rev gear shifts on the auto in drive mode definitely feel like they cause chain chatter".

"http://survivalskills.wordpress.com/2012/09/19/fun-functional-frugal-or-flawed-hondas-nc700x-tested/

 

*He knows it's not a big single, but he's drawing comparisons with the Honda Dominator.  

 

 

No Simon, mines the manual gearbox.   Interesting article though mate. 

[Guest Afroboy70]

 

 

 

 

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

 

thanks for that.  yes, my hopes are high for it once I've put some thinner oil in.  More to follow in due course.  gotta convert Crusty somehow....

 

Well, the Tutoro chain oiler is fitted and working.  I have to say it was an easy job to do and I can now ignore the chain, happy in the thought that it's getting lubed as needed.  I can only recommend it as a simple but nicely made bit of kit and worth the investment.  PS, Dave, I fitted it behind the rear nearside pillion footrest using that threaded hole as you suggested.  Neat job.

 

Hi Neil,

 

Which version of the Tutoro did you go for? Standard or Delux? Just trying to figure out which I need to for to my X with honda Panniers.

 

Cheers

 

Dan

[Guest chickenflaps]

 

 

 

 

 

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

 

thanks for that.  yes, my hopes are high for it once I've put some thinner oil in.  More to follow in due course.  gotta convert Crusty somehow....

 

Well, the Tutoro chain oiler is fitted and working.  I have to say it was an easy job to do and I can now ignore the chain, happy in the thought that it's getting lubed as needed.  I can only recommend it as a simple but nicely made bit of kit and worth the investment.  PS, Dave, I fitted it behind the rear nearside pillion footrest using that threaded hole as you suggested.  Neat job.

 

Hi Neil,

 

Which version of the Tutoro did you go for? Standard or Delux? Just trying to figure out which I need to for to my X with honda Panniers.

 

Cheers

 

Dan

 

Hi Dan

I got the auto oiler, in standard format.  Seemed better value, and you can always buy the "twin feed" bit as an extra if you wish but I thought the single feed would do the job.  It was easy to fit, and (like Dave elsewhere on this site) I used the nearside rear passenger footrest to mount it.  If you look behind that footrest (from the other side of the bike) you'll see a couple of threaded holes for which you'll need a metric bolt.  don't ask me what size, I just happened to have one in the garage! I needed an extra scrap of bracket to give the reservoir room to stand upright and a little bit away from the footrest, but that's easy enough and also came from my box of junk.  Give me a shout if you want/need to.  cheers, Neil

[Guest Afroboy70]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

 

thanks for that.  yes, my hopes are high for it once I've put some thinner oil in.  More to follow in due course.  gotta convert Crusty somehow....

 

Well, the Tutoro chain oiler is fitted and working.  I have to say it was an easy job to do and I can now ignore the chain, happy in the thought that it's getting lubed as needed.  I can only recommend it as a simple but nicely made bit of kit and worth the investment.  PS, Dave, I fitted it behind the rear nearside pillion footrest using that threaded hole as you suggested.  Neat job.

 

Hi Neil,

 

Which version of the Tutoro did you go for? Standard or Delux? Just trying to figure out which I need to for to my X with honda Panniers.

 

Cheers

 

Dan

 

Hi Dan

I got the auto oiler, in standard format.  Seemed better value, and you can always buy the "twin feed" bit as an extra if you wish but I thought the single feed would do the job.  It was easy to fit, and (like Dave elsewhere on this site) I used the nearside rear passenger footrest to mount it.  If you look behind that footrest (from the other side of the bike) you'll see a couple of threaded holes for which you'll need a metric bolt.  don't ask me what size, I just happened to have one in the garage! I needed an extra scrap of bracket to give the reservoir room to stand upright and a little bit away from the footrest, but that's easy enough and also came from my box of junk.  Give me a shout if you want/need to.  cheers, Neil

 

 

Thanks for your post Neil. Do you have the Honda Panniers fitted by any chance? I'm just wondering as the lower pannier brackets use the two rear footrest threadholes so did you use a longer bolt with these?

[Guest chickenflaps]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Long after starting this thread, I'm still finding a quick squirt of quality lube is doing wonders. Chain is looking great after 8000 miles.

To me, an auto lube device seems a bit of an unnecessary faff.

Oi, Crusty, is that an oxymoron? (not sure there).  How can an auto lube device be a faff?!  That said, I stupidly put gear oil in my posh new Tutoro oiler so it drips out as quickly as butter would...next job, fill it with 10-40!

Use scottoil in my Tutoro and it works just fine, no need to adjust in 4000 miles (and yes I do check it!) I used about 3/4 of the reservoir in 1000 miles on my recent trip to France. No faf at all.

 

thanks for that.  yes, my hopes are high for it once I've put some thinner oil in.  More to follow in due course.  gotta convert Crusty somehow....

 

Well, the Tutoro chain oiler is fitted and working.  I have to say it was an easy job to do and I can now ignore the chain, happy in the thought that it's getting lubed as needed.  I can only recommend it as a simple but nicely made bit of kit and worth the investment.  PS, Dave, I fitted it behind the rear nearside pillion footrest using that threaded hole as you suggested.  Neat job.

 

Hi Neil,

 

Which version of the Tutoro did you go for? Standard or Delux? Just trying to figure out which I need to for to my X with honda Panniers.

 

Cheers

 

Dan

 

Hi Dan

I got the auto oiler, in standard format.  Seemed better value, and you can always buy the "twin feed" bit as an extra if you wish but I thought the single feed would do the job.  It was easy to fit, and (like Dave elsewhere on this site) I used the nearside rear passenger footrest to mount it.  If you look behind that footrest (from the other side of the bike) you'll see a couple of threaded holes for which you'll need a metric bolt.  don't ask me what size, I just happened to have one in the garage! I needed an extra scrap of bracket to give the reservoir room to stand upright and a little bit away from the footrest, but that's easy enough and also came from my box of junk.  Give me a shout if you want/need to.  cheers, Neil

 

 

Thanks for your post Neil. Do you have the Honda Panniers fitted by any chance? I'm just wondering as the lower pannier brackets use the two rear footrest threadholes so did you use a longer bolt with these?

 

Hmm, no, I have no panniers fitted.  do they use both threaded holes on each side?  if not, there would be a free one on the near side I guess...my oil reservoir is inside the footrest so I imagine it would be inside the pannier but you'll know best!  cheers, Neil

[Guest Afroboy70]

So finally got a Tutoro installed and am sort of happy with it. Went through the installation procedure, but the oil is not coming out as expected. What setting do people have it set to and how quickly is the oil dripping out?

 

What sort of oil do you use in your Tutoro? Just ordered mine today and contemplating the official Tutoro stuff.....

[Guest jdearauj]

 

So finally got a Tutoro installed and am sort of happy with it. Went through the installation procedure, but the oil is not coming out as expected. What setting do people have it set to and how quickly is the oil dripping out?

 

What sort of oil do you use in your Tutoro? Just ordered mine today and contemplating the official Tutoro stuff.....

 

I am still using the oil they supplied in the kit, have not used anything else.

[Guest Afroboy70]

Now using some scottoil I found online. Seems to work ok.

[Guest jdearauj]

Now using some scottoil I found online. Seems to work ok.

 

Is the pipe at the bottom which feeds the sprocket/chain staying in place?

 

I had the same set-up a while back, but found the pipe would move around and miss the target. It would also only apply the oil to the one side of the chain.

I purchased a different pipe from Tutoro which has wire wrapped around the pipe to keep it in place + a dual feed nozzle and have that setup now to feed onto the sprocket just above the chain. The feed is just to the left of where you have your feed setup.

 

The dual feed pipe was good and seemed to be working well. That was until I trimmed down in size I think due to be pushed up against the sprocket. So this setup is also not working well for me now and I will need to go back to the drawing for a better solution.

 

I will say the actual Tutoro Oiler is brilliant and a amazing piece of kit, it is just the issue of feeding the oil onto the chain.

[Guest chickenflaps]

did you put the S shaped kink in the lower part of the tube where it's cable tied to the swinging arm?  this prevents the pipe from twisting and means that once you've positioned the "outlet" near the sprocket, it shouldn't move.  I have to say that mine's not move a millimetre since I fitted it.  I'm using 20/50 engine oil which seems to do the trick.  Also don't forget to time the drops, by raising the weight (a bit of string or a bit of bent wire works for this) and then regulating the flow to 1-2 drops a minute.  Do that and Robert's your dad's brother.

[Guest Afroboy70]

@jdearauj + chickenflaps

 

Yes I've installed as per the youtube instructions with a kink in the feeding pipe just before it goes down to the sproket. So far it's not moved although I can see how one side of the chain is getting more oil than the other. I may try the dual nozzle feeder but make sure that it's completely solid and not liable to get snipped by the sproket/chain.

[Guest jdearauj]

Quite impressed with this setup http://www.nc700.co.uk/index.php?/topic/4643-scottoiler-esystem-on-nc700xd/ by ste7ios.

 

I like the way the pipe is connected to the rear swing-arm.

[ddazzler64 16]

I just 'lubed' mine in 20 seconds last night. squirted ACF50 on to one of those specialist chain cleaning brushes and did the whole chain in 20 seconds - well maybe 30 perhaps

Mike

how is that with the seals on the chain, i heard it is not recommended - about the only place it in't recommended to spray that stuff...  

[Guest chickenflaps]

Well I'm sorry, but having had a succession of shaft drive bikes, I'm not a fan of the chain.  But the tutoro oiler I fitted means at least I can pretty much forget it.  Don't tell Crusty though.